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	<description>Epidemiology, Health, and Medical News Media Watchdog: A Blog for the General Public</description>
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		<title>By: tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 16:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow I cant fathom who is making all these crazy posts. Your site is quality and it attracts many amounts of these forms posts.  Good luck and continue for the work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I cant fathom who is making all these crazy posts. Your site is quality and it attracts many amounts of these forms posts.  Good luck and continue for the work!</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier Paluk</title>
		<link>http://epiwonk.com/?p=121#comment-877</link>
		<dc:creator>Xavier Paluk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 07:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting take on the subject, count me as a new subscriber!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting take on the subject, count me as a new subscriber!</p>
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		<title>By: Humberto Varaza</title>
		<link>http://epiwonk.com/?p=121#comment-823</link>
		<dc:creator>Humberto Varaza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only want to say your article is striking. The clarity in your post is simply striking and i can assume you are an expert on this subject. Well with your permission allow me to grab your rss feed to keep up to date with future post. Thanks a million and please keep up the good work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only want to say your article is striking. The clarity in your post is simply striking and i can assume you are an expert on this subject. Well with your permission allow me to grab your rss feed to keep up to date with future post. Thanks a million and please keep up the good work</p>
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		<title>By: humour</title>
		<link>http://epiwonk.com/?p=121#comment-817</link>
		<dc:creator>humour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tr?s bon article, merci</description>
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		<title>By: Valerie Mann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valerie Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is obviously a lot to know about this.  I think you made some good points I disagree with some, but most seems accurate.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is obviously a lot to know about this.  I think you made some good points I disagree with some, but most seems accurate.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: daedalus2u</title>
		<link>http://epiwonk.com/?p=121#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>daedalus2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to post this over at PalMD, but I thought that you might actually know how to answer my questions.

How useful would it be as a public health practice to put up signs in public places that people who are not vaccinated should avoid them?  For their own safety and for the safety of people who have compromised immune systems.  

I am mostly thinking about hospitals because there are people there that are immunocompromised, but also places like sports stadiums, concerts, supermarkets, malls, airports, mass transit and any other place that many people congregate.  In the past, didn't they close theaters during epidemics?  

I don't know how feasible it would be to calculate the degree of risk that the congregating of certain groups would have, depending on the degree of immunization in the community.  Then when the "risk" reaches a certain level gatherings of certain types could be discouraged.  

For example something like the superbowl is the ideal place to spread something pretty contageous.  The people who run the superbowl would do virtually anything to prevent it from being canceled, including making a vaccination record a condition of entry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to post this over at PalMD, but I thought that you might actually know how to answer my questions.</p>
<p>How useful would it be as a public health practice to put up signs in public places that people who are not vaccinated should avoid them?  For their own safety and for the safety of people who have compromised immune systems.  </p>
<p>I am mostly thinking about hospitals because there are people there that are immunocompromised, but also places like sports stadiums, concerts, supermarkets, malls, airports, mass transit and any other place that many people congregate.  In the past, didn&#8217;t they close theaters during epidemics?  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how feasible it would be to calculate the degree of risk that the congregating of certain groups would have, depending on the degree of immunization in the community.  Then when the &#8220;risk&#8221; reaches a certain level gatherings of certain types could be discouraged.  </p>
<p>For example something like the superbowl is the ideal place to spread something pretty contageous.  The people who run the superbowl would do virtually anything to prevent it from being canceled, including making a vaccination record a condition of entry.</p>
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		<title>By: Heraclides</title>
		<link>http://epiwonk.com/?p=121#comment-378</link>
		<dc:creator>Heraclides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the latest posts in the thread on Jay Gordon at Orac's website refers to Hugh Heffner's "Gardasil Girls", who apparently promote use of Gardasil. (I have to admit I did a double take on reading that, but it does at least &lt;i&gt;seem&lt;/i&gt; serious.) Not really sure that Hugh is everyone's idea of the best supporter, but its interesting...!

From that post: &lt;i&gt;"I hear that someone told him [Hugh Heffner] that GR [Generation Rescue] was against girls and boys getting the Gardasil vaccine to prevent them from getting genital herpes and cancer, but Hugh's hearing went a few years ago and he thought that Jenny McCarthy was hosting a benefit to pay for Gardasil for preschoolers. A natural mistake. But embarassing for Hef and the Gardasil Girls (TM), not to mention for GR."&lt;/i&gt;

Just for amusement value. (Sorry if this isn't a terribly erudite contribution... maybe I really should start reading those papers instead of procrastinating...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the latest posts in the thread on Jay Gordon at Orac&#8217;s website refers to Hugh Heffner&#8217;s &#8220;Gardasil Girls&#8221;, who apparently promote use of Gardasil. (I have to admit I did a double take on reading that, but it does at least <i>seem</i> serious.) Not really sure that Hugh is everyone&#8217;s idea of the best supporter, but its interesting&#8230;!</p>
<p>From that post: <i>&#8220;I hear that someone told him [Hugh Heffner] that GR [Generation Rescue] was against girls and boys getting the Gardasil vaccine to prevent them from getting genital herpes and cancer, but Hugh&#8217;s hearing went a few years ago and he thought that Jenny McCarthy was hosting a benefit to pay for Gardasil for preschoolers. A natural mistake. But embarassing for Hef and the Gardasil Girls (TM), not to mention for GR.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Just for amusement value. (Sorry if this isn&#8217;t a terribly erudite contribution&#8230; maybe I really should start reading those papers instead of procrastinating&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Aust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Aust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Epiwonk. I kind of figured you knew already, but though I'd post the connection just in case. 

I do read the blog, (though more often Orac's paraphrases of your work - lazy, I know) but hadn't read all the autism prevalence ones.

The letter Simon Baron-Cohen wrote to the British newspaper the &lt;i&gt;Observer&lt;/i&gt; was after they published an utterly dire story talking about the "rising tide of autism" almost exactly a year ago (coinciding, not in the least coincidentally, with the start of the medical licensing misconduct hearing against Dr Andrew Wakefield). The story generated an enormous (largely blog-based) backlash in the UK; Ben Goldacre did several scathing stories on it which can be found &lt;a href="http://www.badscience.net/category/mmr/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; if you are interested (scroll down to find them).

I am a physiologist by trade so I tend to avoid blogging the MMR / vaccine / autism story as there are others much better qualified (like yourself). Though occasionally my annoyance with the credulous media coverage &lt;a href="http://draust.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/who-needs-facts-these-vaccine-conspiracy-pieces-write-themselves…/" rel="nofollow"&gt;gets the better of me&lt;/a&gt; (and &lt;a href="http://draust.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/the-toxins-in-vaccines-crowd-are-still-with-us/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).

One epidemiology-related issue I have written about is the "increased cancer risk from chlorinated water" idea that some of the water-woo people like to riff on. I did my take on this &lt;a href="http://draust.wordpress.com/2008/01/31/drinking-water-–-or-bathing-in-it-–-can-be-deadly-not/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, mostly dealing with the way risk is "framed", though it sort of alludes to the epidemiology here and there.

Anyway, keep up the good work. There seems to be so much misuse of epidemiology at the "mock-scientific" end of woo that it is good to know you are out there shooting down their nonsense. It also helps no end as a blogger to know, when someone sticks up an idiotic claim, that you can say "well here's a real epidemiologist explaining in detail exactly why that idea / letter / paper was a crock".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Epiwonk. I kind of figured you knew already, but though I&#8217;d post the connection just in case. </p>
<p>I do read the blog, (though more often Orac&#8217;s paraphrases of your work - lazy, I know) but hadn&#8217;t read all the autism prevalence ones.</p>
<p>The letter Simon Baron-Cohen wrote to the British newspaper the <i>Observer</i> was after they published an utterly dire story talking about the &#8220;rising tide of autism&#8221; almost exactly a year ago (coinciding, not in the least coincidentally, with the start of the medical licensing misconduct hearing against Dr Andrew Wakefield). The story generated an enormous (largely blog-based) backlash in the UK; Ben Goldacre did several scathing stories on it which can be found <a href="http://www.badscience.net/category/mmr/" rel="nofollow">here</a> if you are interested (scroll down to find them).</p>
<p>I am a physiologist by trade so I tend to avoid blogging the MMR / vaccine / autism story as there are others much better qualified (like yourself). Though occasionally my annoyance with the credulous media coverage <a href="http://draust.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/who-needs-facts-these-vaccine-conspiracy-pieces-write-themselves…/" rel="nofollow">gets the better of me</a> (and <a href="http://draust.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/the-toxins-in-vaccines-crowd-are-still-with-us/" rel="nofollow">here</a>).</p>
<p>One epidemiology-related issue I have written about is the &#8220;increased cancer risk from chlorinated water&#8221; idea that some of the water-woo people like to riff on. I did my take on this <a href="http://draust.wordpress.com/2008/01/31/drinking-water-–-or-bathing-in-it-–-can-be-deadly-not/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, mostly dealing with the way risk is &#8220;framed&#8221;, though it sort of alludes to the epidemiology here and there.</p>
<p>Anyway, keep up the good work. There seems to be so much misuse of epidemiology at the &#8220;mock-scientific&#8221; end of woo that it is good to know you are out there shooting down their nonsense. It also helps no end as a blogger to know, when someone sticks up an idiotic claim, that you can say &#8220;well here&#8217;s a real epidemiologist explaining in detail exactly why that idea / letter / paper was a crock&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: EpiWonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>EpiWonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dr Aust: Thanks for informing us about the connection to Professor Simon Baron-Cohen.  If you haven't seen them already, you may be interested in my previous posts on autism prevalence and diagonostic substitution at http://epiwonk.com/?p=38, http://epiwonk.com/?p=39, and http://epiwonk.com/?p=82.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dr Aust: Thanks for informing us about the connection to Professor Simon Baron-Cohen.  If you haven&#8217;t seen them already, you may be interested in my previous posts on autism prevalence and diagonostic substitution at <a href="http://epiwonk.com/?p=38" rel="nofollow">http://epiwonk.com/?p=38</a>, <a href="http://epiwonk.com/?p=39" rel="nofollow">http://epiwonk.com/?p=39</a>, and <a href="http://epiwonk.com/?p=82" rel="nofollow">http://epiwonk.com/?p=82</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: EpiWonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>EpiWonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@andrea: Sorry.  I'll edit the post and identify the people in the pictures.  Meanwhile: the top photo is of Jim Carrey and Jenny MCarthy.  The middle three photos are of Amanda Peet and her baby.  The bottom photo is of the fictional Kazakhstani "Borat," AKA the British comedian Sacha Baron-Cohen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@andrea: Sorry.  I&#8217;ll edit the post and identify the people in the pictures.  Meanwhile: the top photo is of Jim Carrey and Jenny MCarthy.  The middle three photos are of Amanda Peet and her baby.  The bottom photo is of the fictional Kazakhstani &#8220;Borat,&#8221; AKA the British comedian Sacha Baron-Cohen.</p>
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